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5teamparlay
04-16-2007, 08:54 AM
Cold, rain cuts short global warming rally
MARTIN GRIFFITH (online@rgj.com)
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted: 4/14/2007
More than two dozen demonstrators braved cold, wet weather Saturday in Reno to attend a rally designed to draw attention to global warming.
The event was cut short by heavy rain and sleet, said organizer Lisa Stiller of the Northern Nevada Coalition for Climate Change.
“It’s kind of disappointing that the weather kept people away,” Stiller said. “But we still think it (climate change) is something that people should talk about.”
The storm prevented the use of solar ovens for a potluck picnic, Stiller said, and caused the planned two-hour demonstration to break up after about an hour.
‘Step It Up’
More than 1,300 events were organized in every state under the banner Step It Up 2007 to push Congress to require an 80 percent cut in carbon dioxide emissions by 2050.
In downtown Reno’s Brick Park, demonstrators listened to speeches urging Nevadans to do their part to cut greenhouse gas emissions.
Dale Brabham, a chemistry instructor at Truckee Meadows Community College, said people can reduce gas use by buying more fuel-efficient vehicles or eliminating the need for owning a vehicle.
People also can tune up vehicles for maximum gas mileage, make homes energy efficient and convert to non-incandescent lighting, he said.
“The evidence is strong and clear. The conclusion is that life as we know will change soon, very likely in our lifetime,” Brabham warned. “Everyone must shoulder the responsibility of meeting the challenge of delaying the change by reducing their impact on the environment. Our survival depends on it.”
‘Green Summit’
Reno City Councilman Dave Aiazzi talked about the city’s efforts to reduce carbon emissions and urged residents to attend its “Green Summit” on Thursday. The event is designed to develop plans to reduce emissions and improve energy efficiency.
Local activist Bob Tregilus gave a demonstration of his electric motorcycle and urged people to consider such alternative modes of transportation.
“Americans need to wean themselves from the pump and adopt the plug,” he said.

Will Bridges
04-16-2007, 01:59 PM
“Americans need to wean themselves from the pump and adopt the plug,”

If nothing else 5team, this will drive down the price of oil and make our oceans and skys cleaner.

losturmarbles
04-16-2007, 03:40 PM
“Americans need to wean themselves from the pump and adopt the plug,”

If nothing else 5team, this will drive down the price of oil and make our oceans and skys cleaner.

it would help soften the dependency on oil, but not so much a cleaner world.

read this article:
The Recorder (http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188)

Will Bridges
04-16-2007, 04:24 PM
it would help soften the dependency on oil, but not so much a cleaner world.

read this article:
The Recorder (http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188)


lost-

You don't think oil spills create polluted oceans. Use less oil, less oil spills. Consume less oil by using less and more efficient methods equal cleaner air!

Do you work for Mobil?

losturmarbles
04-16-2007, 04:56 PM
lost-

You don't think oil spills create polluted oceans. Use less oil, less oil spills. Consume less oil by using less and more efficient methods equal cleaner air!

Do you work for Mobil?


oil spills arent really so much a problem like they were say 20-30 years ago. not in the US anyway. domestic oil companies have been pretty responsible ever since the big exxon spilll in alaska in 89. (thats what my big oil boss tells me anyway.)

but yeah i wish we could as consumers use less oil, but there isnt any real alternative that is more "efficient" or that doesnt replace one evil with another.

Will Bridges
04-16-2007, 05:16 PM
Can you explain to me why you do not think hybrid cars are less taxing on the environment?

At minimum, I think the US should create a law that does not allow mothers to buy SUV vehicles that never use 4-wheel drive. That alone would drive down the price of gas by $1.00 and save millions of barrels of oil!

losturmarbles
04-16-2007, 05:46 PM
Can you explain to me why you do not think hybrid cars are less taxing on the environment?

At minimum, I think the US should create a law that does not allow mothers to buy SUV vehicles that never use 4-wheel drive. That alone would drive down the price of gas by $1.00 and save millions of barrels of oil!

dude read the article from above^^^

hybrids still use gas for stop and go
hybrids last 100k miles (before replacing battery i guess?)
most other cars last close to 300k (and follow pretty good emmision standards)
the battery is made from nickel that has to be mined and smelted at factories that have a lot more enviromental damage than a oil spill.

Will Bridges
04-16-2007, 06:16 PM
I see, so saving hundreds of millions of barrels of oil is not as econiomical as the nickel plated battery problem.

Nevermind, just keep driving the gas hog SUV's, but hey, can you get these hypocrites to stop their crying about the price of gas.

Once again, thanks for setting me straight on enviromental issues. But let me see if I have it straight, Hybrid cars are no better than gas cars environmentally?

losturmarbles
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
I see, so saving hundreds of millions of barrels of oil is not as econiomical as the nickel plated battery problem.

Nevermind, just keep driving the gas hog SUV's, but hey, can you get these hypocrites to stop their crying about the price of gas.

Once again, thanks for setting me straight on enviromental issues. But let me see if I have it straight, Hybrid cars are no better than gas cars environmentally?


Hybrid cars are no better than gas cars environmentally?

yeah, actually theyre worse. imagine having 100 of those nickel plants scattered across the country.