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kahlmyishmael
06-25-2008, 03:30 PM
Next "false flag" terror attack against US Citizens & perpetrated by US Military-Industrial Complex (and to be blamed on Iran) to be revealed here in this TOW Forum tomorrow.
Former US Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld stated that MILLIONS more Americans would be murdered in the next false flag terror attack to be blamed on Iran.
Right here in the TOW Forum.....You will all find out tomorrow what the US Military-Industrial complex PLANS TO DO to murder millions of your fellow countrymen.
Still waiting for Boogeyman to invite pro-Zionist, Ron Weick of the NY TV Show, HardFire to the TOW FORUM
louisvillekid
06-25-2008, 10:01 PM
are you "shamswoof" for SBR ?
kahlmyishmael
06-26-2008, 03:32 PM
are you "shamswoof" for SBR ?
No...someone there named TacoKid stated I constructed arguments in the same fashion....
LouisvilleKid,
If one knows that a building has intentionally been set ablaze... and the NYPD arrest a number of individuals --- one who has himself photographed by his friend GRINNING with a flicked cigarette lighter burning in his outstreched arm in the foreground AND THE building ablaze in the background...
...what can one deduce from that conduct...
LouisvilleKid,
While the trappped men of Ladder Company 6 and Ladder Company 3 were breathing their last breaths of life on this planet in the burning WTC Towers & wondering how their families would go on without them.....
...what were the arrested MOSSAD AGENTS doing with that flicked cigarette lighter & photography camera?
So who then attacked the WTC, LouisvilleKid????...
19 Muslim patsies or the MOSSAD people with the flicked cigartte lighter & their future-predicting MOSSAD colleagues arrested in another part of town who got the living crap beaten out of them SOLELY BECAUSE the NYPD Police officers don't believe in the ability to predict the future?
Roberto spoke of what kind of world his child would have to grow up in...what kind of evil in the news media would spike further news coverage of this AS WELL AS further news coverage of the sraeli MOSSAD Agents who could predict the future?
kahlmyishmael
06-26-2008, 03:57 PM
so i don't get it,
do you always spend your time trolling forums
Why would you use the word "troll" when you yourself have evaded every invite?
Who do you think on this forum is stupid enough to be manipulated by that?
Jake Thompson???... Nahhh!
Will Bridges???... Nahhh!
and posting incoherent rants about arbitrary events that have nothing to do with each other.
do you recycle the same bs over and over hoping to bait someone into posting a response?
..so the person who has evade every question NOW HAS USED the words "troll", "incoherent", "rants" & wants to sneak in UNRELATED events.
So MOSSAD AGENTS standing with a flicked cigarette lighter while the WTC Towers burning in the background while their MOSSAD colleagues in another part of town are getting the living crap beat out of them by the NYPD SOLELY BECAUSE the NYPD don't believe in the ability to predict the future is UNRELATED???
Are the two events unrelated, losturmarbles?
Why not invite pro-Zionist Ron Wieck to the SBR Politics Forum (per JerseyMike's admonition) and he can provide us the hyperlink of the NYPD Radio Dispatch where you hear the one Police Officer scream to his Police Colleague, "kick the fucking shit out of them [MOSSAD AGENTS]?
Or now that JerseyMike has stated he does not want Ron invited here WOULD YOU LIKE to invite ME to post the hyperlink of that NYPD Dispatch myself AS WELL AS the hyperlink to the attempted US GOVERNMENT coverup in the report issued by the Secretary of Transportation?
if you want people to listen to you, if you actually care about what you are talking about, then why all the charades? why foolishly ramble on in a thread with no rational train of thought. why all the hyperbole about predicting the future and over the top sarcasm?
The invite me to post BOTH hyperlinks
you don't want to be taking seriously, you don't want a discourse of ideas or a honest examination of facts.
No... i can produce the facts anytime...what I want to do is show the balance of he readership what evil exists right in their own neighborhoods & internet forums.
So invite me to produce the actual NYPD Radio Dispatch broadcast since you didn't want to invite pro-Zionist Ron Weick here
so i just don't see what your motivation is? your agenda--i don't get it
You see quite clearly AS EVIDENCED BY your attempt to manipulate the balance of the readership... who do you think you've ACTUALLY manipulated onb this forum into buying your thesis AFTER HAVING EVADED the simple invite perhaps 2 or 3 times?
louisvillekid
06-26-2008, 09:43 PM
ok, i don't really know what the story is behind these Mossad Agents, give me a link to a story or a book that was published so i can read more about it.
from what little i've gathered from your posts, this is about the WTC i assume. i think you are saying the Mossad agents predicted the future and if that is what you are saying, then i assume they knew the plan all along, OR they knew the plan and our government didn't listen, which could be likely, since intel has been released saying our government knew of the possibilities but didn't act on the info.
Now if you are trying to say that the WTC was set on fire BY A CIGARETTE LIGHTER, i call BS. here's what happened, some radical muslims who were a part of the Taliban came up with a brillantly simple plan, take flying lessons, all set out on flights around the east coast that were bound for the west coast all on the same morning, to make sure the planes were possibly the biggest jets and they would be loaded with fuel, then hi-jack the planes by using simple weapons, knowing that the lax Americans would be easy push-overs thinking the US will save them, not knowing the intentions of the hi-jackers probably kept the people on board thinking it would be some ranson type thing, after the first 3 planes crashed, the people on the 4th realized what was happening and tried to overtake the hi-jackers and the plane crashed before anyone knew exactly what the course was.
It was a simple yet brilliant plan. Take advantage of loving caring Americans who look/hope for the good in people, take advantage of lax airport security, then fly planes into WTC towards the top, planes crash, fuel goes everywhere, fire starts, weakens structure. building collaspes like a domino effect.
there were no bombs, no one set the fire. the WTC towers were built before fire proofing foam was required by state regulations to be sprayed on all buildings. the walls were built like an erector set, thin outside steel supports to be able to twist and turn with the wind, then each floor had like a foot of concrete, once one level got weak from the intense heat, and when i say got weak from the intense heat, i mean the steel got weak, not MELTED, the steel couldn't melt like in a steel mill were they pour molten steel into shape, but it got weak enough at certain points to loose it's structural integrity, causing one floor to collaspe then leading to the domino effect.
here's the thing, the middle east , or most middle eastern countries, don't except the state of Isreal, never have never will. And it's death to anyone who does for alot of the extremists. So the US and basically all the European countries, hell most of the world except for the middle eastern countires, all except the Jewish people as having a right to the state of Isreal. so the fighting and terroist attacks will never end, it will always go on.
It is easy to mold young minds into a belief when they have not much to look for. Terrorists will always have another young mind to breed their radical beliefs onto. It's the same as gangs in major cities here in the US or elsewhere. you feed into a young persons mind that they got nothing to live for, then use them for your own agenda.
i believe there will never be peace in the middle east also, because you have differnet muslims who have different beliefs, you got Shittes, Sunnis, Kurds who all hate each other, their beliefs run 2000+ years deep, you can't change them.
i'm done rambling on, i've had these discussions to much.
kahlmyishmael
06-27-2008, 06:04 PM
You're purposely playing dumb :)....as i outlined by highlighting the large portions of the question you do not want to answer.
That's okay by me, Sunshine!:) I'll play your little game
SIvan Kurzberg was the MOSSAD AGENT who was photographed grinning/smiling holding the cigarette lighter with the WTC Towers burning in the background while your fellow Americans from ladder Company 6 & Ladder Company 3 were breathing their last breaths of llife on this planet and wondering how their families would go on without them.
Was Sivan Kurzberg TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for the attacks when he stood with that flicked cigarette lighter?...
From the UK Sunday Herald & Toronto Globe & Mail
http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
By Neil Mackay
The Sunday Herald - UK
<dl><dt>In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters ñ the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers who'd flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before.
</dt><dt>
</dt><dt>There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert.</dt><dt>
</dt><dt>
</dt><dt> The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." </dt><dt> </dt><dt>His name was Sivan Kurzberg. The other four passengers were Kurzberg's brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men were dragged off to prison and transferred out of the custody of the FBI's Criminal Division and into the hands of their Foreign Counterintelligence Section ñ the bureau's anti-espionage squad.</dt></dl>
U.S. arrests of Israelis
a mystery
globeandmail.com (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/printarticle/gam/20011217/UHELDM)
<table border="0" cellpadding="7" width="630"> <tbody> <tr> <td> By DOUG SAUNDERS
With a report from Associated Press
Monday, December 17, 2001
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Also, five of the Israelis came to the FBI's attention after they were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture.
ok, i don't really know what the story is behind these Mossad Agents, give me a link to a story or a book that was published so i can read more about it.
from what little i've gathered from your posts, this is about the WTC i assume. i think you are saying the Mossad agents predicted the future and if that is what you are saying, then i assume they knew the plan all along, OR they knew the plan and our government didn't listen, which could be likely, since intel has been released saying our government knew of the possibilities but didn't act on the info.
Playing dumb again...which means you know the answer & you yourself know what the MOSSAD AGENTS did... YOU PURPOSELY HAVE AVOIDED answering why the NYPD would have :) kicked the living shit out of them :msmack:for informing the FBI & CIA
Now if you are trying to say that the WTC was set on fire BY A CIGARETTE LIGHTER, i call BS.
That's not what I said... but YOU TELL US what Sivan Kurzberg was trying to impress upon those who would view that photo back at MOSSAD HQ back in Israel.
here's what happened,...
Really? You're going to tell us what happened, LouisvilleKid?
Do you think Sivan Kurzberg was saying he & HIS FELLOW mossad
Here comes some distracting verbiage in an attempt to get away from the MOSSAD AGENTS taking responsibility for the attack...ready?
... some radical muslims who were a part of the Taliban came up with a brillantly simple plan, take flying lessons, all set out on flights around the east coast that were bound for the west coast all on the same morning, to make sure the planes were possibly the biggest jets and they would be loaded with fuel, then hi-jack the planes by using simple weapons, knowing that the lax Americans would be easy push-overs thinking the US will save them, not knowing the intentions of the hi-jackers probably kept the people on board thinking it would be some ranson type thing, after the first 3 planes crashed, the people on the 4th realized what was happening and tried to overtake the hi-jackers and the plane crashed before anyone knew exactly what the course was.
It was a simple yet brilliant plan. Take advantage of loving caring Americans who look/hope for the good in people, take advantage of lax airport security, then fly planes into WTC towards the top, planes crash, fuel goes everywhere, fire starts, weakens structure. building collaspes like a domino effect.
there were no bombs, no one set the fire. the WTC towers were built before fire proofing foam was required by state regulations to be sprayed on all buildings. the walls were built like an erector set, thin outside steel supports to be able to twist and turn with the wind, then each floor had like a foot of concrete, once one level got weak from the intense heat, and when i say got weak from the intense heat, i mean the steel got weak, not MELTED, the steel couldn't melt like in a steel mill were they pour molten steel into shape, but it got weak enough at certain points to loose it's structural integrity, causing one floor to collaspe then leading to the domino effect.
here's the thing, the middle east , or most middle eastern countries, don't except the state of Isreal, never have never will. And it's death to anyone who does for alot of the extremists. So the US and basically all the European countries, hell most of the world except for the middle eastern countires, all except the Jewish people as having a right to the state of Isreal. so the fighting and terroist attacks will never end, it will always go on.
It is easy to mold young minds into a belief when they have not much to look for. Terrorists will always have another young mind to breed their radical beliefs onto. It's the same as gangs in major cities here in the US or elsewhere. you feed into a young persons mind that they got nothing to live for, then use them for your own agenda.
i believe there will never be peace in the middle east also, because you have differnet muslims who have different beliefs, you got Shittes, Sunnis, Kurds who all hate each other, their beliefs run 2000+ years deep, you can't change them.
i'm done rambling on, i've had these discussions to much.
kahlmyishmael
06-27-2008, 06:06 PM
LouisvilleKid..what was MOSSAD AGENT Sivan Kurzberg implying he was responsible for when he had himself photographed with that flicked cigarette lighter?
louisvillekid
06-27-2008, 09:37 PM
LouisvilleKid..what was MOSSAD AGENT Sivan Kurzberg implying he was responsible for when he had himself photographed with that flicked cigarette lighter?
probably just implying his inner happiness for the deaths of US civilians, for all i know he could be anti-US, but claims to be a Israeli who loves America when asked. hell if i ever visited a foreign country i would be telling them how much i love there country also ,even if i hated it deep inside. So maybe Sivian and his brother and friens are just anti US deep inside and they were celebrating something bad that happened to the US.
i don't like cops, alot of people don't like cops, but when one is around you smile and act friendly, but when they leave you talk shit about them. same scenario could of happened, i don't know.
now that i got the names i'll google them and try to read up more on the story, cause i don't remember it, or if it was ever shown on a national news outlet they must not of ran too big of a story on it and it got thrown under the carpet.
kahlmyishmael
06-28-2008, 10:33 AM
...why would you use the word "PROBABLY" for that explanation????...okay..give us something less "probable"....
howz about... the Israeli MOSSAD AGENT was taking responsibility for the attack on the WTC?
1) How "probable" is that?
2) ..and why were they stopped by the police in that White Van (that sent NYPD bomb-sniffing dogs to barking) on the Jersey Turnpike with fake Saudi Passports, $4700 in cash & boxcutters?
Were they going to murder hundreds more Americans on the GWB and leave those passports, boxcutters & cash behind to implicate arabs...
How probable is that?
3)...and the White Van that was between 6th & 7th on King.... Were they going to murder hundreds more americans by drowning them in the Holland Tunnel?
How probable is that?
probably just implying his inner happiness for the deaths of US civilians, for all i know he could be anti-US, but claims to be a Israeli who loves America when asked. hell if i ever visited a foreign country i would be telling them how much i love there country also ,even if i hated it deep inside. So maybe Sivian and his brother and friens are just anti US deep inside and they were celebrating something bad that happened to the US.
i don't like cops, alot of people don't like cops, but when one is around you smile and act friendly, but when they leave you talk shit about them. same scenario could of happened, i don't know.
now that i got the names i'll google them and try to read up more on the story, cause i don't remember it, or if it was ever shown on a national news outlet they must not of ran too big of a story on it and it got thrown under the carpet.
louisvillekid
06-28-2008, 12:20 PM
i'm still reading all the articles i can find on this Sivian dude. so far there is somekind of orginization of corrupt Jewish owned moving companies in the NY/NJ area who would scam people. i'm still looking for an article that says there was absolute proof that those guys were Mossat agents, so far there are numerous articles saying they worked for a moving company, which might explain the box cutters and cash, $4700 isn't that much money really. the Passports, i guess since they weren't from this country maybe that is why they had them, i don't know, if i'm in another country i'm sure i would have my passport. i can't find proof that they were fake. Apparently these guys were noticed in Jersey by bystanders celebrating the WTC collapse, these poeple phoned the police and by the time they found them they were crossing the tunnel, because of the people who phoned in and said they looked middle eastern and were taking pictues and celebrating the collapse, i assume the police were probably hard on them because of what just happened, hell we're talking about NY police who are as corrupt as they come.
its taking me awhile to read these articles some are from middle eastern websites and i have to use the google translate to read them, and it's still not worded like i'm used to reading.
i'm also finding that they might of been ex Mossat agents or had connections with Mossat agents, and they might of been here in the US undercover tracking radical Jews, or they might of been radical Jews disguised as Moving company workers, again i'm still sorting through the articles.
i don't know why i'm really wasting my time to humor you, you are obliviously convinced that there are many other hidden agendas and everything is a conspiracy.
All governments are corrupt, trying to find all the hidden agendas and get the real truth is a wasteful time.
being a sports bettor i think there is a conspiracy for fixed games all the time, can i prove it? no, i just move on.
louisvillekid
06-28-2008, 12:25 PM
Here comes some distracting verbiage in an attempt to get away from the MOSSAD AGENTS taking responsibility for the attack...ready?
... some radical muslims who were a part of the Taliban came up with a brillantly simple plan, take flying lessons, all set out on flights around the east coast that were bound for the west coast all on the same morning, to make sure the planes were possibly the biggest jets and they would be loaded with fuel, then hi-jack the planes by using simple weapons, knowing that the lax Americans would be easy push-overs thinking the US will save them, not knowing the intentions of the hi-jackers probably kept the people on board thinking it would be some ranson type thing, after the first 3 planes crashed, the people on the 4th realized what was happening and tried to overtake the hi-jackers and the plane crashed before anyone knew exactly what the course was.
It was a simple yet brilliant plan. Take advantage of loving caring Americans who look/hope for the good in people, take advantage of lax airport security, then fly planes into WTC towards the top, planes crash, fuel goes everywhere, fire starts, weakens structure. building collaspes like a domino effect.
there were no bombs, no one set the fire. the WTC towers were built before fire proofing foam was required by state regulations to be sprayed on all buildings. the walls were built like an erector set, thin outside steel supports to be able to twist and turn with the wind, then each floor had like a foot of concrete, once one level got weak from the intense heat, and when i say got weak from the intense heat, i mean the steel got weak, not MELTED, the steel couldn't melt like in a steel mill were they pour molten steel into shape, but it got weak enough at certain points to loose it's structural integrity, causing one floor to collaspe then leading to the domino effect.
here's the thing, the middle east , or most middle eastern countries, don't except the state of Isreal, never have never will. And it's death to anyone who does for alot of the extremists. So the US and basically all the European countries, hell most of the world except for the middle eastern countires, all except the Jewish people as having a right to the state of Isreal. so the fighting and terroist attacks will never end, it will always go on.
It is easy to mold young minds into a belief when they have not much to look for. Terrorists will always have another young mind to breed their radical beliefs onto. It's the same as gangs in major cities here in the US or elsewhere. you feed into a young persons mind that they got nothing to live for, then use them for your own agenda.
i believe there will never be peace in the middle east also, because you have differnet muslims who have different beliefs, you got Shittes, Sunnis, Kurds who all hate each other, their beliefs run 2000+ years deep, you can't change them.
i'm done rambling on, i've had these discussions to much.
you find nothing i said in that even remotely true.
kahlmyishmael
06-29-2008, 11:34 AM
you find nothing i said in that even remotely true.
...the moon not being made of green cheese is also a "truth", but if i state it to avoid an issue-- it becomes an "evasion"
So again...back to the point of the photograph of the MOSSAD Agent grinning & holding a cigarette lighter while the men of Ladder Company 6 and Ladder Company 3 were dying in the burning WTC in that photo's background..
..why would you use the word "PROBABLY" for that explanation????...okay..give us something less "probable"....
You used the word, "probably"
so I'll repeat the question:
howz about... the Israeli MOSSAD AGENT was taking responsibility for the attack on the WTC?
1) How "probable" is that?
louisvillekid
06-29-2008, 02:38 PM
ok after sifting through numerous articles, and damn it feels like i'm in school trying to do a paper, i have came to the conclusion that "who the hell knows?". it seems that there was these jews that may or may not of been radicals and may or may not of been ex Mossat agents. they were seen by various bystanders that morning of 9-11 celebrating and taking pictures. they were also caught by police in a white van by one of the bridges, but there was another white van with people of ethenticity that i could not find to be of a certain origin that were found by another bridge with explosives in their van, apparently an anonymous caller called 911 and said there was some people who looked Palestinian in a white van heading towards the tunnel, possibly a mix direction play, but the police shut off all access points on bridges and tunnels that is why both vans were caught.
Now, do i think the possible Mossat agents knew about the attacks because of intelligence they were gathering in this country while they were disguised as moving company workers, or that they organized the attacks with some patsies who just happened to have ties to the taliban? i don't know. i don't work for the NSA, FBI, CIA, and hell, probably 99.9% of those people don't know.
If this was a planned attack by some radical jews and our own higher ups in government knew about it, i think someone would of slipped up by now. it would take more than a handful of people to know a plan of that nature and someone would of slipped up by now.
i think Dick Cheney is an evil slimy weasel, but for our government to let something happen like that is hard for me to believe.
it's going on 7 years now, all the conspiracy theorists can hope for is that when a new administration gets in the white house that someone will open the files and let everyone know.
i still think Bin Laden had something to do with it, the Taliban took claim then didn't take claim. they had tried on numerous occasions before with previous attacks on various points here and around the world, but i think when they actually pulled off the biggest of all they realized the game was on and that they were going to be in for a real war with the US.
could the taliban and these radical jews have been working together? it's possible.
there is so much we the public will never know unless we get an administration in the White House that will open the files and be truthful. But governments aren't truthful so i'm not holding my breath on that ever happening.
so to answer all your question. I don't know. All i can say is go up to the Pentagon or White House and demand you want answers and see how far that gets you.
kahlmyishmael
06-30-2008, 03:43 PM
After sifting throuh numerous articles???:)
How about you knew he answer all along...and how about answering a simple question you've avoided?
No one has ever said the WTC was being brought down by a flicked cigarette lighter... so you can continue to play "dumb" if you want to:medium3:
Do you think the Zionists at SBR are going to buy into your explanation of Sivan Kurzberg's photographic conduct with the flicked cigarette lighter?
No...they'll flee & fall silent because they were a little more discreet than you, Boogeyman, etc.
But it'll be nice to have fun with them...
"Though this be madness, there twas method in it" - Hamlet
So, once more.....
...you stated "probably"
How about something less "probable" then?
How probable was it that Sivan Kurzberg was ACTUALLY TAKING responsibility for the WTC attacks when he had himself photographed standing & grinning with a flicked cigarette lighter while the WTC burned/smoldered in the background?
Roberto... I want you to read the story of the purchase of the DunkinDonuts.Org domain name... your Web site is just the right size to worry these traitors & for me to accomplish my aims with the IRS CID...not too big(like The Rx or SBR)...not too small(like WagerSharp, WhaleWager or VIP Lounge)
The reason you'll sell will be because the Price is Right.... the reason these traitors will BUY is because NOW THE questions that will be submitted to the Boogeyman, LouisvilleKid, coldhardfacts(SBR), etc will be...
"Is the answer to the Sivan Kurzberg conduct provided by the US News Media & US Government going to be any better than what you pro-Zionists have provided here?"
The anwser is, "No! Roberto"...the responses from the News Media & US Government get no better than what LouisvilleKid provided here...
The bad guys will first attempt to intimidate you into taking this content down & then they'll offer to buy the entire site.
These guys are scared... they're scared now... but they'll be even MORE SCARED when I provide a "nuts & bolts" toolkit of constitutionally-compliant actions that you, Ron Sacco, Calvin Ayre(even though he no longer owns BoDog)...David Caruthers(even though nobody likes him & he is out of BOS operations) can perform
I'd tell you more...but I just started eating a Pizza delivered to me by a driver who was not carrying the required commercial automobile insurance---maybe I'll get to it later
Don't sell your Web site for financial peanuts, Roberto.
Come on, LouisvileKid!!!:) Help Roberto sell this site for $250,000.... Would a fellow who was standing in front of a building that had been set ablaze intentionally BE TAKING responsibility for the deed if he had himself photographed GRINNING with a flicked cigarette lighter in hand while the building burned in the background?:medium2:
ok after sifting through numerous articles, and damn it feels like i'm in school trying to do a paper, i have came to the conclusion that "who the hell knows?". it seems that there was these jews that may or may not of been radicals and may or may not of been ex Mossat agents. they were seen by various bystanders that morning of 9-11 celebrating and taking pictures. they were also caught by police in a white van by one of the bridges, but there was another white van with people of ethenticity that i could not find to be of a certain origin that were found by another bridge with explosives in their van, apparently an anonymous caller called 911 and said there was some people who looked Palestinian in a white van heading towards the tunnel, possibly a mix direction play, but the police shut off all access points on bridges and tunnels that is why both vans were caught.
Now, do i think the possible Mossat agents knew about the attacks because of intelligence they were gathering in this country while they were disguised as moving company workers, or that they organized the attacks with some patsies who just happened to have ties to the taliban? i don't know. i don't work for the NSA, FBI, CIA, and hell, probably 99.9% of those people don't know.
If this was a planned attack by some radical jews and our own higher ups in government knew about it, i think someone would of slipped up by now. it would take more than a handful of people to know a plan of that nature and someone would of slipped up by now.
i think Dick Cheney is an evil slimy weasel, but for our government to let something happen like that is hard for me to believe.
it's going on 7 years now, all the conspiracy theorists can hope for is that when a new administration gets in the white house that someone will open the files and let everyone know.
i still think Bin Laden had something to do with it, the Taliban took claim then didn't take claim. they had tried on numerous occasions before with previous attacks on various points here and around the world, but i think when they actually pulled off the biggest of all they realized the game was on and that they were going to be in for a real war with the US.
could the taliban and these radical jews have been working together? it's possible.
there is so much we the public will never know unless we get an administration in the White House that will open the files and be truthful. But governments aren't truthful so i'm not holding my breath on that ever happening.
so to answer all your question. I don't know. All i can say is go up to the Pentagon or White House and demand you want answers and see how far that gets you.
kahlmyishmael
06-30-2008, 03:49 PM
....and Roberto...we STILL haven't even gotten to you all listening to the actual NYPD Radio dipatch that day NOR THE attempted coverup by the US SecTransportation report...
Oh yes, Roberto.... You and yours should download the lyrics to, "We're in the Money!!!.. We're in the money!!!"
The DunkinDonuts,org story:
http://www.usm.maine.edu/com/ford.htm
louisvillekid
06-30-2008, 11:37 PM
damn dude i don't know what your looking for on a sports gambling forum, but obviously you have whatever thoughts in your head set in stone, so no one is changing it.
all i did is go back over shit i have tried to put in the past and move on, i looked back through numerous articles, some given by news media, some by conspiracy theorists, some by random people, and some by the government.
i don't know why i'm a zionist and sbr and all these other gambling forums are haters and zionists, just because were gamblers and can't answer your questions doesn't mean you need to call us names.
i know there is more to the whole thing, but i'm not going to let it eat away at me, cause get this, I don't work for the government and I'm not in the inner circle of the handful of people who know.
I know you can't stand the words "probable", "maybe", "theorize", "theory", "possibly", etc., but thats all i can do is look at both sides of an argument or rationilize from what i've read, and then come up with a "possible" explanation.
You are looking for cold hard facts that you ain't going to find on a sports gambling forum.
and were is the link to the pictures of the allegedly Mossat agents standing DIRECTLY in front of the burning towers with a flicked cigarette lighter. all the stories i have read they were in NJ spotted by numerous people celebrating and undeveloped pictures shown them in some pics as to look like they were holding lit lighters up as a celebratory gesture, but i haven't seen them, just read articles mentioning them.
i can tell that you have your thought made up about what happened and you aren't going to look and every piece of the puzzle, you just find what sticks out to YOU and run with it.
So AGAIN, just march your little tail down to the White House or Pentagon and and demand to see the ALL the files, and see how far that gets you.
Oh and tell them i sent you.
kahlmyishmael
07-01-2008, 03:48 PM
Mmmm...hmmm
No,no... I ACTUALLY LIKE the use of the word "probable"...now you implied it was PROBABLE that Sivan Kurzberg was making some kind of a figurative statement that hated America when he flicked the cigarette lighter...
Now we move on to the less PROBABLE:)
So, I'll repeat the question you have PERSISTENTLY evaded...
Come on, LouisvileKid!!!:) Help Roberto sell this site for $250,000....
Would a fellow who was standing in front of a building that had been set ablaze intentionally BE TAKING responsibility for the deed if he had himself photographed GRINNING with a flicked cigarette lighter in hand while the building burned in the background?:medium2:
Take a stab at it, LouisvilleKid... I mean from Boogeyman down all the way to you ---- the road that has been traversed has gone from me being an antisemitic, conspiracy nut to your opinion that it MAY HAVE BEEN radical zionists behind the deed...
...so again & again:medium3:
Would a fellow who was standing in front of a building that had been set ablaze intentionally BE TAKING responsibility for the deed if he had himself photographed GRINNING with a flicked cigarette lighter in hand while the building burned in the background?
damn dude i don't know what your looking for on a sports gambling forum, but obviously you have whatever thoughts in your head set in stone, so no one is changing it.
all i did is go back over shit i have tried to put in the past and move on, i looked back through numerous articles, some given by news media, some by conspiracy theorists, some by random people, and some by the government.
i don't know why i'm a zionist and sbr and all these other gambling forums are haters and zionists, just because were gamblers and can't answer your questions doesn't mean you need to call us names.
i know there is more to the whole thing, but i'm not going to let it eat away at me, cause get this, I don't work for the government and I'm not in the inner circle of the handful of people who know.
I know you can't stand the words "probable", "maybe", "theorize", "theory", "possibly", etc., but thats all i can do is look at both sides of an argument or rationilize from what i've read, and then come up with a "possible" explanation.
You are looking for cold hard facts that you ain't going to find on a sports gambling forum.
and were is the link to the pictures of the allegedly Mossat agents standing DIRECTLY in front of the burning towers with a flicked cigarette lighter. all the stories i have read they were in NJ spotted by numerous people celebrating and undeveloped pictures shown them in some pics as to look like they were holding lit lighters up as a celebratory gesture, but i haven't seen them, just read articles mentioning them.
i can tell that you have your thought made up about what happened and you aren't going to look and every piece of the puzzle, you just find what sticks out to YOU and run with it.
So AGAIN, just march your little tail down to the White House or Pentagon and and demand to see the ALL the files, and see how far that gets you.
Oh and tell them i sent you.
kahlmyishmael
07-01-2008, 04:01 PM
LouisvilleKid,
JakeThompson, who after all is TOW Royalty, seemingly is lamenting that he too wants in on the $$$$ action...
Jake is one of the most helpful guys I've known on multiple forums...
So let's HELP both Jake & Roberto by you answering the following question
Are the responses from the pro-Zionists in the News Media & US Government going to be any better than yours as it pertains to Sivan Kurzberg's conduct?
What I'm trying to NAIL DOWN here is?
Would a fellow who was standing in front of a building that had been set ablaze intentionally BE TAKING responsibility for the deed ifhe had himself photographed GRINNING with a flicked cigarette lighter in hand while the building burned in the background?
Do you think the Zionists at SBR & JREF are going to experience the same difficulty as you in answering this question, old sport?... I mean it's been like at least two or three times that you've failed to answer:medium:
colo-colo
07-01-2008, 04:30 PM
Oh yeah! the alarms! so what does an american do when it goes from orange to red?
he'll tell his wife: hey hun, it went to red, let's go have dinner and brush your teeth!
(Some sarcasm there)
kahlmyishmael
07-01-2008, 07:03 PM
Oh yeah! the alarms! so what does an american do when it goes from orange to red?
he'll tell his wife: hey hun, it went to red, let's go have dinner and brush your teeth!
(Some sarcasm there)
I could be wrong, but I believe Roberto was compelled to disable the TOW Forum "dingbat alert" klaxons once I began posting here in earnest:)
colo-colo
07-02-2008, 04:35 PM
LOL
kahlmyishmael
08-23-2008, 08:25 AM
I'd say the odds are that losturmarbles is using an old pro-zionist trick of attempting to bury threads his overlords don't like to the second page.
Lot of activity lately in the Politics Forum, old chum
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