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Old 06-16-2005, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Jury verdict of $100,000 + punitive damages for Grosjean and Russo vs. Caesars Palace and Griffin agency

In a unanimous jury verdict in Clark County District Court on June 10, 2005, James Grosjean and Michael Russo were awarded a total of $100,000 against Caesars Palace for false imprisonment and against Griffin Detective Agency, Inc. for libel.. The jury unanimously found in favor of the plaintiffs on every question they were asked to decide. Specific damages awarded were $25,000 to Mr. Grosjean against Caesars, $25,000 to Mr. Grosjean against Griffin, $25,000 to Mr. Russo against Caesars, and $25,000 to Mr. Russo against Griffin. The plaintiffs are represented by Las Vegas attorneys Robert Nersesian and Thea Sankiewicz.

The jury specifically found that there was no probable cause for Caesars to believe Mr. Grosjean or Mr. Russo had committed any crime when they were forcibly backroomed and detained after winning over $18,000 from Caesars in April 2000. The jury specifically found that Griffin libeled the plaintiffs by continuing to publish false information that they are cheaters. The jury found that both defendants are liable for punitive damages to both plaintiffs. The hearing on punitive damages will be held Friday, June 17.

Link to a 2003 article about Griffin Detective Agency. www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2003/dec/20/122010578.html

'In my opinion, it is an incredible compilation. ... peppered with mistakes and falsehoods based on some of the grossest hearsay,' said lawyer Bob Nersesian of Las Vegas.

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The Bear Growls: Thank you Mr. Grosjean, Mr. Russo, Mr. Nersesian, and Ms. Sankiewicz

Las Vegas blackjack player, casino critic, and frequent BJ21.com contributor LVBear offers his opinions on things that sometimes go wrong in the world of casinos.

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The entire advantage player community should thank James Grosjean and Michael Russo for their brave actions in pursuing their claims against Caesars, Griffin, the Gaming Control Board, and Imperial Palace. (Mr. Grosjean recently received a $600,000 jury verdict against Imperial Palace for a similar false imprisonment).<>

While there have been many lawsuits filed against casinos for wrongful treatment of skilled patrons, most are quietly settled and contain non-disclosure agreements. Mr. Grosjean and Mr. Russo chose to go public with their cases, at possible great sacrifice to themselves. Both are well-bankrolled professionals. They don’t need the extra money that will eventually come to them vs. the quick, easy settlements they could have received from their assailants. But they stood on principle, and we are all better off for it.
Maintaining the action against Griffin was particularly important. The rapacious folks at Griffin have long made a living off the backs of honest skilled patrons by misstating facts and publishing phony information. Thanks to Mr. Grosjean, Mr. Russo and their fine attorneys Bob Nersesian and Thea Sankiewicz, Griffin will have to pay for its evildoing.

The punitive damage hearing is Friday. I hope the jury awards punitive damages high enough to finally teach Caesars a lesson, and high enough to put Griffin out of business.
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Jury deals gamblers winning hand

Two awarded punitive damages from detective agency used by casinos

By ROD SMITH
GAMING WIRE

Two advantage gamblers whose rights were violated in an incident five years ago at Caesars Palace on Friday won punitive damages from a detective agency that supplies information to casinos.

A District Court jury ordered Griffin Investigations to pay Michael Russo $15,000 and James Grosjean $10,000 in punitive damages.
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Advantage gamblers increase their chances of winning by legally taking advantage of a dealer's or a casino's mistakes or by means such as card counting.

Griffin Investigations supplies lists of suspected advantage players and cheats to casinos.

Last week, the jury decided that Caesars Palace had falsely imprisoned, defamed and battered the two men and that Griffin Investigations was guilty of libel and maliciousness.

It ordered each company to pay Russo and Grosjean actual damages of $25,000 apiece and found that Griffin Investigations and Caesars Palace should be subject to punitive damages. Judge Lee Gates, who heard the case, ordered Friday's hearing to decide on punitive damages.

Sources familiar with gaming law said this is probably the first case in which Griffin has failed to win on technical arguments.

The case's conclusion was also unusual for advantage gambling lawsuits, which are normally dismissed or settled out of court and for much less, usually from $15,000 to $20,000, according to several local attorneys.

On Thursday, Caesars Palace settled its punitive liabilities from the lawsuit for an undisclosed amount.

David Strow, spokesman for Harrah's Entertainment, which acquired Caesars Palace this week as part of its $9 billion merger with Caesars Entertainment, declined comment.

'The jury in this case clearly told Griffin Investigations it no longer can include the universe of advantage gamblers and just say individuals are suspected of cheating or using a device and ascribe a felony (as they did in this case),' said Bob Nersesian, a Las Vegas attorney who represents Russo and Grosjean.

The judgments vindicated his clients and showed that people in Nevada believe casinos should treat all patrons, even winners, with proper respect under the law, he said.

The complaint in this case originated from an April 2000 incident when Russo and Grosjean were playing Three Card Poker at Caesars.

Grosjean, a doctoral candidate in economics at the University of Chicago and author of 'Beyond Counting,' a 'how-to' manual on beating the gambling odds, was winning the game thanks to a 'sloppy' dealer and his own 'hole carding,' where a player tries to catch a glimpse of a dealer's face-down card, he said.

Caesars Palace pit workers, based in part on an entry about Russo in Griffin Investigations' book of known cheats, detained the two men and accused them of card bending.

Griffin Investigations has listed Russo in its book since 1993, and has described him as having a history of '21 hole carding, card bending, Caribbean Stud conspiracy.'

The company also listed Russo as a 'known' card bender in a number of fliers sent to casinos.

Caesars Palace called the Nevada Gaming Control Board, handcuffed and searched Russo and Grosjean and detained them for five hours.

Russo and Grosjean were then arrested by Las Vegas police for allegedly cheating.

Russo was released the next day, but Grosjean was held in custody for 4 1/2 days.

At the recent trial, Caesars Palace contended the Gaming Control Board had investigated and decided to arrest Russo and Grosjean. However, the jury found Caesars Palace had pressed to have them arrested based on evidence the casino gave state investigators.

The jury found that Caesars Palace had no probable cause to believe that Russo or Grosjean committed a gaming violation or a felony.

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